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Just got a Burg 200. Love the bike EXCEPT for one thing...

The seat "hump" is bugging me. Hits me right in the tailbone.
I'm 6'0" tall, and find myself wanting to slide back and perch right about where the hump is. My knees feel crunched when I sit in front of it, and my backside feels pinched. Perching on top of it feels funny too, like half standing up.

I have had a collection of scoots over the years, and had the same issue w/ a Honda SH150 when I got it. That scoot's forum had suggestions for removing it's "hump". I had it removed by a seat specialist I found online. Enjoyed it much more after that. I could slide up and down to find a comfy place throughout my ride after the mod. Forward for concentrating, back for relaxing.

Has anyone on this forum w/ a B200 had the same issue, and most notably, has anyone tried modifying the seat???
 

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Welcome! You problem is not uncommon for taller riders. The best thing to do is either find a replacement seat{Corbin maybe has one?} or take it to an upholstery shop and have it modified. There are also online shops where you can send your seat to and have it done. If you are skilled and have the tools you could mod it at home.
 

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If you just need a couple of inches, try a backrest to replace the standard butt-pad. It'll give you a couple more inches and it accommodates my 6'2" frame very well.
 

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If you just need a couple of inches, try a backrest to replace the standard butt-pad. It'll give you a couple more inches and it accommodates my 6'2" frame very well.
There is no removable butt-pad on the Burgman 200. So that trick won't work for him.
 

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Seat Hunp ==Sore Tailbone

I have not seen the Seat Pan on the 200 ,but know of the discomfort you speak of onto the Tailbone. Don't know if you would consider this but I had the similar problem of both my 05 and my 09 400, but just could not justify the $$$ for a new seat. I seen a Harley, that had a Donut Shaped Seat and when I sat on it ,the pressure to my Tailbone was eliminated. I located the point where my tailbone contacted my seat, then marked an appx 6" by 8 " area around that point onto the Plastic seat Pan and cut it out with a Dermal Tool It completely eliminated the Previous discomfort and I now enjoy long rides without that particular problem. . Naturally you will see the Modification to the Pan when the seat is raised .I just covered the area with tape. Works for me. If you are interested I could take a Pic.
 

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OP: I started a post in another thread ("Anybody Done A Seat Rebuild/Mod On The B200?") - I've got the same problem and decided to take a shot at fixing it myself. The Service Manual is on its way. I've been talking with Suzuki USA about how to deconstruct the seat (more than just reshaping the foam (although that's my first & best choice if it solves the issue). I may need to wack/move the incline back (or reshape it entirely).

I've assembled most of the tools possibly needed and ordered some practice foam to experiment with this month. Probably won't start on the seat until Jan.. I want to get my break-in done and the 600 miles service before I give up riding in the unpleasant Maryland Jan-Feb months. I just clocked my first tank fill-up at 179 miles yesterday so have some riding to do, weather permitting.

I've never done a seat remodel before so this should be interesting. If you want I'll keep you posted on progress or you can just follow my main thread which I'll update as things progress. Perhaps you can learn from my inevitable mistakes unless you start before me - in that case I'll look forward to your posts. :D
 

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Since this is a one time deal, any interest in just farming out that service to an upholstery shop?
Last time I got a seat shaved down, local shop only charged me $25.
 

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Since this is a one time deal, any interest in just farming out that service to an upholstery shop?
Last time I got a seat shaved down, local shop only charged me $25.


$25 - WOW!!! I can't argue with that price - certainly another one of Texas's many charms :). $25 in suburban Baltimore/Washington doesn't buy much! Yeah, I've talked by phone with two shops - just need to run the scooter over for a preliminary assessment.

However, the extent of remodeling may be a bit more complex than just shaving the foam. If I find that the seat bump incline needs to be be moved back or eliminated, makes it hard for upholstery shops to firm price the job - and that's even if they'd work with modifying the hard plastic pan if needed - don't know yet. Custom motorcycle seat work involving pan modification or a new pan in my area is way not cheap!

There are a couple of related considerations:

1) Based on Web postings by folks who have done it on other models - it's probable that some repeated tinkering may be required which could be a problem scheduling within my preferred timeframe at a professional shop;

2) I'm a retired geezer with nothing but free time and I'd prefer to do it myself if I can, just for the h*** of it. As long as the the arthritis in my hands doesn't flare up - why not go for it?

3) Once the cover is off and the foam/incline situation is assessable, I may go "whole hog" and build my ultimate dream seat: think of the super supportive custom seats with side bolsters you see on some luxury cruisers - that would be cool!!!

That kind of extensive custom foam fabrication and covering (I like leather if I can afford it) gets real pricey at a pro motorcycle seat shop around here. I suspect I'll leave the recovering to a pro if I can't reuse the original cover.

It's all to TBD but I'm fairly sure I'll give it a shot. Gives me something to do during the lousy weather here in Jan-Feb.
 

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I have heard of people using a heat gun to make the plastic seat pan pliable enough to reshape. Maybe worth trying.
 

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I have heard of people using a heat gun to make the plastic seat pan pliable enough to reshape. Maybe worth trying.


Hey! That is a very interesting idea - I might explore it. I've asked Suzuki what type of plastic is used in the seat pan to save me the testing re: appropriate epoxies if I have to go the cut/reshape the pan route. I think they have to contact Japan for that info.

I'm toying with exploring building some type of backrest (either using firmer foam or adapting a commercial add-on type) while I'm at it. I'm still riding so haven't taken the cover off yet. Should be an interesting winter project.

Thanks for the tip. :cheers:
 

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Every seat pan I have ever seen on recent bikes have been made from polypropylene. However all plastic parts are required to be marked with a letter or number code. The number code is always in a triangle and the letter code is usually separate but always in all caps. I just checked my Burg 400's seat and the code was "PP" along with the part number and date/time of manufacture code. Look on the bottom of your seat and see what is there. BTW here is some info on plastic codes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code


If you do use a heat gun be very careful! They get super hot and plastics can easily go from melting a little to flash fire. I would also be very worried about how the foam on the other side might react. Best to take off the upholstery and foam before doing this.
 

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/\ speedandstyle: Many thanks for the plastics information and warning. I had considered that a heat gun anywhere near foam wouldn't be a good idea - I've used them before on other projects but never in reshaping plastic. I will definitely be ultra cautious if I go that route.

Its probable at this point that simply reshaping the incline (if feasible) won't give me the rearward inches I want. I've gotten seriously interested in the idea of incorporating a backrest into the remodel.

Not sure how I'm going to do it - looking at the feasibility of simply using ultra firm foam and/or a foam covered piece of appropriately shaped hard plastic with relocating the incline. I'm perfectly willing to wipe out a good portion of the pillion seat area - I've never had a passenger except for two instances where I gave a ride to folks who broke down in the boonies.

One concern is not to screw-up too much of the undersea storage area with a "cut & paster" repositioning of the incline section. The pending addition of a top case will lesson that impact. Its all a TBD situation. Thanks again for the very useful tips.
 

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I just had the seat height raised on my new 2014 Burgman 200 by adding 2" of foam under the stock vinyl cover. There is still a small amount of the stock hump left but it completely eliminated the problem for me. The upholstery shop shaped the added foam so the final modification looks like it came from the factory that way. They charged $60.
 

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Jel seat cushion

Hi
Just got a Burg 200. Love the bike EXCEPT for one thing...

The seat "hump" is bugging me. Hits me right in the tailbone.
I'm 6'0" tall, and find myself wanting to slide back and perch right about where the hump is. My knees feel crunched when I sit in front of it, and my backside feels pinched. Perching on top of it feels funny too, like half standing up.

I have had a collection of scoots over the years, and had the same issue w/ a Honda SH150 when I got it. That scoot's forum had suggestions for removing it's "hump". I had it removed by a seat specialist I found online. Enjoyed it much more after that. I could slide up and down to find a comfy place throughout my ride after the mod. Forward for concentrating, back for relaxing.

Has anyone on this forum w/ a B200 had the same issue, and most notably, has anyone tried modifying the seat???
I suggest you contact American Motorcycle Specialties. At www.amspecialtiesusa.com[url] They make Sheep Skin covered memory foam gel seat cushions with a cutout where your tail bone is. Being tall it would be a better fit on your bike for your legs. Ask them to send you a catalog. I love mine.
 

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I just had the seat height raised on my new 2014 Burgman 200 by adding 2" of foam under the stock vinyl cover. There is still a small amount of the stock hump left but it completely eliminated the problem for me. The upholstery shop shaped the added foam so the final modification looks like it came from the factory that way. They charged $60.


Hey - sounds great! ($60 - INCREDIBLE!!!) Any more details - type & firmness of foam that was used? Looking at my seat it's hard to see how an additional 2" is possible while reusing the stock cover. Also very curious about the actual increase in seat height when you're on it.

Any details would be much appreciated. :)

PS - one downside (JMO) to eliminating the bump entirely is in emergency braking - it leaves one (in my experience) without the "brace" when you really slam on the ABS. I've noticed in my braking drills on other rides that I really appreciate having something to push back on when it's a "stop right now" situation. I'm barely over my 600 mile mark and haven't pushed higher end emergency braking tests as yet - TBD.
 

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Hey - sounds great! ($60 - INCREDIBLE!!!) Any more details - type & firmness of foam that was used? Looking at my seat it's hard to see how an additional 2" is possible while reusing the stock cover. Also very curious about the actual increase in seat height when you're on it.

Any details would be much appreciated. :)

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Hopefully this (and the pictures) will answer most of your questions.

I don't know exactly what firmness he used other than he said it was a firm foam that is used in automotive seats. He also said he placed the foam on top the stock seat foam and then shaped it to look stock.

I know he also used a heat gun to soften the vinyl so that it would stretch over the new foam.

As for the total increase in height my feeling is that it is now about 1-1/2" to 2" higher. As you can see there is still a slight hump but it allows me to now sit much further back and it feels much more comfortable.

Oh yeah, I am 5' 10" if that helps.

P.S. Sorry, I should have included pictures with the original post.
 

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qualt that seat sure looks good, if you didn't know you'd think it was stock.
 

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qualt that seat sure looks good, if you didn't know you'd think it was stock.
I agree, I think he did a nice job and for a fair price. I assume that most competent custom upholstery shops could do just as nice of a job if they first saw the pictures of what this guy did.

When I first asked him about raising the seat padding he didn't seem to think it would be a big deal and it appears he was right. On top of that it only took a couple of hours from the time I dropped it off until he called and said it was ready (and he needed to finish a Toyota headliner before he could even start on my seat).

Therefore it looks like the Burgman 200's low seat problem can easily be corrected by almost any competent auto upholstery shop.

Oh by the way; I just brought him the seat, not the bike. You only need to remove three nuts (10mm socket) to remove the seat.
 
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