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Coincidence --- I just got on here tonight after sometime not on the site, partly to see if you ever got the thing mounted and saw your post you just posted. EUREKA

That is the easy way out -- let someone else do it. HA!

THAT IS WHAT I SHOULD DO NEXT TIME. Worked and worried and then had so much help, it was like having someone do it anyway and spent more. :) I donated to the guy's web site (EastTNBikers.com) that did seat it and helped me get it on the rim. I aslo tipped the guys at a Used Tire store that tried to seat it (the store does not usually charge for such and I juust tip them $5 as they do not make much in wages I am sure). They did not get it seated, probably because of lack of lubrication and I was trying to keep pressure down figuring it would seat in time.

Glad you found someone willing and what a great price :)

Best I would be able to do around here is $15 per wheel - wheel off (guy has excellent equipment to work with, no mar and even a spin balance). Even with that - he had trouble mounting a car tire on my friends Valkyrie, but they got it done. So, not sure he could do it or not do it on the scooter?

I think the final seating secret for me was the Teflon Spray Lube (as I said chain lube by Dupont bought at Walmart for Chains -- there is just plain Dupont Teflon Lube at Lowe's Stores). Lowe's is big hardware and everything chain, like Home Depot if youa re familiar with thsoe type stores.

And of course had to go to 100 psi which I wanted to avoid.

Wobble, I certainly would not think the Car Tire causes that (based on my use - now at about 7000 miles). I can turn loose of handle bars at any speed and runs straight and true. (That is with the original Equipment on front and nearly 13000 miles total on the OEM Front tire which is showing signs of cuping and wear on edges - lot of curvy rides around here).

As far as handling diference -- I say Negligible.
 

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Weird Wobbles --- Noticed nothing when I went to a Car Titre (on the 400 or the 650 before).

Solid as a rock at all speeds (max I have seen is almost 90 mph). I think that is maximum for the 400 (talking actual not speedometer with 10% error, now 7% error with Car Tire).

No getting use to for 100s of miles - very little if any difference in handling (Negligible).

Swapped Scooters with a buddy tofday (His Yamaha Majesty 400) and we were on some curves on Blue Ridge Parkway. He lead on my scooter and was getting it pretty good (Not crazy speed mind you). When we swapped back, I said you were on a Car Tire. He had not a clue.

Also, it was his first time ever on a Burgman 400 with any kind of tire. Has ben a Harley Rider all his life until he bought the used 2007 Yamaha Majesty three weeks ago (has only ridden ti a few hundred miels).

By the way -- the clutch engagement on the Majesty 400 is a lot more smoother than on the Burgman 400.
 

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Oh, what a difference new steering bearings can make! So far, I'm pleased with the handling and performance except at 70+ mph, at which the bike still has a wobble. I'll play with rear tire pressures, now.
I have not experimented with pressure -- just pump it up to around 37 PSI. Sometiems when I recheck in a few days, have seen 35PSI.

I have a feeling front pressure is more of an issue on these 400s because people are use to running more pressure than recommended 25psi. (I use to use near 40psi on all my previous MCs cause everyone says tires last longer - not so sure that is true as seems to me you are forcing tire to run more on center which is wha wears out fastest). Also, read in here that things work better at lower pressure on front tire. I have been runing more like 27psi on the front.

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Front tire at 13,500 Miles (Took to show Chicken Strip - unused portion of edge of tire tread).

Rear tire at 7200 miles of use -- 0.175in tread left from 0.250in when new.

That figures out to be 24000 miles if you run it slick and wear rate stays the same. :violent1:
 

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Sometimes I can't believe all this talk about wobble, car tires are bad, only good for straigh riding, etc., etc.

Only wobble I have ever had is on my NINJA (MC TIRES) - felt it all the time (for like 35000 miles and different tires). Then last front tire I installed (same as others - a KENDA) the wobble was gone. ??? Beats me, except I heard rumors that Kenda improevd their tires.

By the way, wobble was enough that if you turned loose of the handle bars (I would say an inch or so on handle bars). NO PROBLEM.

I have not felt anything on the 400 (now about 8000 miles on car tire) and did not feel anything on the 650 (used Car tire for 30000 miles). ALL SPEEDS (up to near 100 on 650 and almost 90 on the 400 (which is about all they will do anyeway - actual speeds, not speedometer).

I know guys here running car tires on bikes (Valks, Goldwings, VTX 1300s) for years and many thousdands of miles that ride (I am sure in excess of 70 or 80 mph and corner more than most of you ever do). I have posted pictures of one Valkyrie with muffler about an inch from scrapping the road on the Dragon on a car tire.

I posted pictures of my car tire after 7000 or so miles with also picture of the Front Tire 'Chicken Strip". I don't lean at race riders angles, but I ride and more curves than a lot of folks have seen (East TN and Surrounding Area Mountsains in NC, GA, KY). CAR TIRES WORK.

Plus, all the worrry about mounting opressure? I admit that was a worry to me also and I tried everything to keep it below 80 or 90PSI (which is also high if you look at instructions from tire manufactures). However, it is a common thing and done all the time.

Do people ever get tired of worrying about Car Tires on MCs? :) No offense intended.
 

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Aopparently, I did not get pictures posted to go with the post about CAR TIRE at 7200 miles and also show "Chicken Strip" on the Front Tire. Try to post again. I have also posted all the information on my thread about the Car Tire (had in the title Test at 15 miles) Bad choice of title. as now have tested at 4000 and 72000 also.

Note -- Meausred Car Tire Tread depth at 7200 miles when I took the picture (ave is 0.175 vs 0.250 when new)
 

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Sorry Paul but, as I am having the actual experience of the wobble, I think I am justified to "worry" about at least particular CT on a motorcycle and, some of the stuff kinda did sound offensive. Or, at least it makes me feel defensive. In any case, we're in the same camp regarding CT's but, I would prefer to get this figured out. I'll try a couple psi higher as you are running and, may try the Ride-On product. I've read some good things about it. Fortunately, relatively little of my riding is at Interstate speeds, as most of my higher speeds are at highway speeds of 60-70 mph, just below where the problem occurs.

Thanks for your input!
Scooter -- no offense intended. Was referring to a lot of comments about Car Tire Use (been going on for years).

Wobble to me is not a concern worth worrying about (of course that depends on How Bad it is - do not want to go to an uncontroled wobble). Many folks have some wobble on bikes of all kinds.

I gave example of my NINJA (only one I have ever had a prioblem with and was being pretty severe, but I never felt endagered by it - keep hands on handle bars). Pretty common on NINJA 500s.

I considered having the bearing looked at or nut tightened. Then luck have it -- changed the front tire (same brand - KENDA) and NO Noticeable Wobble since (by the way, just put new rear tire on NINJA and no wobble).

Folks with MCs worry theirself sick about all kinds of little things looking for perfection. :love4:
 
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