Thanks all for the warm welcome and all the replies to my answers, i will follow the links and do some reading. Interesting that it has a wet clutch, is the clutch in the motor? or the at the rear wheel hub. I read a comment saying later models after 2005 may have different throttle bodies and ecm, does anybody know can later model ecm's be installed on older Burg's to improve fuel econ, or that wont work coz the throttle bodies are different and it will run rough. When a buyer looks at a 650, is there any tell tale signs without riding the bike if the there trick cvt is playing up and on the way out, im talking about funny sounds or rattles when the motor is idling and pressing the different gbox modes on the handle bar switch. Good to hear the front wheel size hasnt changed, no need to swap wheels around from one model to another. Yes i do like Gilera mp3 they make a nice 500, being an owner of italian scooters the biggest problem is parts and finding a decent shop. Does Suzuki do a good job of welding and painting their Burg frames? does the paint last and is it thick enough? and strong enough? is it good against time? meaning rust and corrosion. Italian manufactures build very heavy sold frames, but depending on what day of the week it is? the welding can be rubbish and all italian frames i have worked on and seen the paint on the frames is very poor, very thin and rust comes calling very quickly, i hope Suzuki do a better job on their burg frames, i would be interested to hear, thankyou.