[scooterkal]

I thought I'd save $200 by changing my own engine and transmission oil, as well as the final drive hypoid for the 600 mile service on my 2011 Exec.

I have the Tupperware off, finished the engine oil and filter change, but have run into a snag with the transmission part of it.

I removed the top fill bolt, the drain bolt on the bottom, and the middle "inspection/level" bolt.

After draining the oil, I replaced the drain, placed a 1/4" plastic tube with a syringe on the end into the fill opening, and started to push oil into the opening. I've used a more than 2 quarts of oil to try to get oil to start flowing from the inspection opening, but instead I have oil flowing from the filler opening (with no fluid coming from the middle opening.

I know this thing's only supposed to take 12 oz., but I now have the 650 sitting in the garage with both upper bolts removed, and oil still flowing from only the top fill opening.

Anybody have a clue to what's going on? Should I drain the trans. and start over again? And if so, is there a trick to getting the new fluid into the trans?

Thanks for any help.

--Andy

 

[NormanB]

Curious, very curious.
Have you followed Le Dudes helpful and videod procedure? Linky
I have to ask - have you identified the right fill point and level plug?
Sorry.

Maybe post a pic of the area of interest and point to the level plug with a screwdriver.

No offence intended.

 

[scooterkal]

Yeah, I printed out LeDude's instructions for the oil changes.

But I incorrectly put 1-1/2 quarts of 10w40 into an opening on the top/side of a round case cover (not the fill opening)...I don't know where the oil went. I pulled the drain plug again, and hardly anything's coming out of the drain.

I'm really concerned about what's in that housing.

 

[NormanB]

Can you send a pic of the point where you put the oil?

 

[scooterkal]

I'll give it a try...it might take a few minutes since I've never posted pictures here before.

Thanks.

 

[Jim]

Quick reference.

This is from Oil change with Pics(Long) for AN650 thread. Pictures from that thread
While it is for a standard '03. it should be pretty much the same.

 

[scooterkal]

Jim, do you see the "bell" housing to the right of the sight glass hole...it's above the trans drain plug, and there's a bolt in the side case of that housing. That's where I put the oil.

 

[Jim]

From above picture link

NOTE:
I have never used the fill hole. I add the oil through the overflow hole till it runs out.

 

[NormanB]

I think you may have poured your oil into the clutch housing.
I also think you have completely misidentified the transmission drain point ( in addition to the correct fill and level plugs).
If this is so - and I am just guessing until you can confirm - you have done no harm yet but do not start the engine!

Have a look at this Le Dude Vid, Part one of Clutch change, and check out at around 34 seconds in - is this the circular cover you are talking about? Linky clutch cover at 34 seconds

 

[scooterkal]

Yep, I've poured the oil into the clutch housing...Jim, It's to the left of the real trans fill opening. You can see the bolt I removed in your picture. I stared at the pictures in the manual for a half hour before starting this, and obviously it wasn't long enough.

Am I correct in identifying the trans drain plug as facing the ground, or did I mis-identify that one too?

 

[Jim]

Correct

It requires an allen wrench.

You may want to check the oil level in the engine. I believe that is where the extra oil went.

If over full, drain it and save it for the next oil change. There is nothing wrong with it.

 

[NormanB]

Well judging on your track record you have probably misidentified the transmission drain plug. :lol:

How much oil did you get out when you first drained it (you should always measure this by the way)?

 

[socaltino]

Pardon my ignorance. What is the use of the bolt that is on the clutch cover? Is it a lubrication point for the bearing found underneath? As luck would have it, the mechanic at the dealer where I purchased my Burgman, painted the drain plugs; fill plugs and the check plug a bright yellow. Maybe he figured I would be coming back for routine maintenance and wanted to make sure he drained and filled at the right spots.

 

[scooterkal]

I didn't measure the oil that drained from the trans.....I just let it drain into the pan with the engine oil.

I'll be more careful to check stuff like that in the future.

So after I drain/adjust the engine oil level, the oil that I poured into the clutch housing won't be a problem, and I can start the Bman without a ball of fire coming out of the exhaust?

 

[Jim]

What is the use of the bolt that is on the clutch cover? Is it a lubrication point for the bearing found underneath?

The best we could deduce is, it's an access point to check oil pressure.

Here is a view from the back side.

So after I drain/adjust the engine oil level, the oil that I poured into the clutch housing won't be a problem, and I can start the Bman without a ball of fire coming out of the exhaust?

Correct

 

[socaltino]

I see Jim. So the hose that looks like a small brake hose, that goes from the transmission to the engine block now makes sense. Cool. Thaks for the explanation.

 

[scooterkal]

Thanks again for all your help. Now I can finish this, mop up the 10w40 off the garage floor, change the final gear? oil with hypoid, and try to remember where all the fastener thingies go.

 

[Jim]

If you are referring to a black hose below the engine, I believe you are correct.

The picture reference I posted above makes a good quick reference for all 3 of the fluids.

Once the first one is done, you can do all 3 oil changes in under a 1/2 hr.

 

[NormanB]

I would strongly recommend you read Jim's guide and view Le Dudes video before you attempt the refill.
No harm done this time. :thumbup:

 

[Jim]

Thanks norm, but most of my reference material came from Allwalks gallery.

http://burgmanusa.com/gallery/allwalk/album24/

NOTE: It is NOT necessary to remove any plastic to change the Trans. oil, if you fill through the overflow hole.