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I once again folks. I recently sold my Honda ST1300 and having once owned a 2009 Burgman 650 executive Sandy & I were thinking of getting another. Is there much improvement in the new 2013 modal over the older 2012 modal. I have had a look around and it would cost me around £600 more to get the newer modal is it worth paying the extra or would you stay with the older modal.

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There's only one member who has the new one so far. The thread is nearby. Hans Pluyger?

From what I've read/watched, the new Burger King doesn't quite make the case for an upgrade. Same engine/frame/wheels/suspension/cvt/handle bar controls. Slightly modified clutch, ECU, dash and brakes. Smaller trunk, relocated parking brake and restyled tupperware.

It's a very Burgman upgrade really, lots of little things similar to how previous model years were tweaked slightly. Personally, I think a new, discounted 2012 would be better. Use the savings to upgrade the suspenders and add a topcase.
 

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Au contraire - from what I have read the sum of the 2013 changes offer a significant improvement over what existed before.
The reworking of the CVT and clutch are very worthwhile alone, the remaining changes are largely styling and that will always come down to a matter of taste. However, any purchasing decision needs to weigh up value and if those changes stack up for you financially, a 2013 is unlikely to be discounted whereas an unused new 2012 should be discounted significantly.

As the sun goes down it is down to taste and the depth of your pockets.

If I was in this position (and I am not) I would stretch for the 2013.
 

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a little like the dilemma with new face lift model vehicles. The older looking models are often favourably discounted, as the new face lift models hit the dealers lots. It doesn't take long though for the face lift models to penetrate markets and the 'old' style to start look outdated fast. Whilst it is not always the case, after a short period of time the new face lift model is not so new any more, since some other manufacturer hits the market with the next wizz bang product (market saturation). Products reach an equilibrium pretty quickly. From what I have read (the same posts as mentioned) and elsewhere, the 2013 seems much more than the sum of its parts, with the devil is the detail. Depending on the capital difference and personal circumstances, I'd spring for the new and improved 2013 (face lift) Burgy over a discounted 2012 or if money was a problem (which it isn't) I'd hold off the purchase. The restyle is what will separate that 2013 Burgy scoot, from the previous generations, and that's the difficulty, there's not really anything cosmetically different between say the 2002 (11 years old already) and the 2012 (1 year old) with the latter suffering because it looks well, old and outdated.

Give it a couple of years and the differences will be more apparent cosmetically as the maxi scoot markets matures even more, with the addition of other manufacturers e.g. BMW, Honda, Kymco myRoad et al. increasing their penetration. Even the BMW has made converts of quite a number (anecdotally at least). Riders who'd never contemplated a "scooter" before pony-ing up and securing a C600/C650GT and not even knowing that there are existing maxis like the Burgman or Silverwing, let alone the other - in existence.
 

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I am in the same position. I put a deposit down on a 2013 in Jan. and dealer gave it back to me in May. I want to ride and not wait forever. I had a 2009 non exec and sold it in dec for a exec. After waiting all this time and I not being able to get the color gray ( dropped from web site) I am getting a new 12 at a great price. I don't plan on trading so having the new model is not a factor. Same engine, same power and I don't want the ECO light telling me I can save fuel by going slower. The new mirrors are also smaller and less effective. I have no problem with the big butt and still like the looks of the gen 1s.
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Gr8ful said:
not being able to get the color gray ( dropped from web site)
I just looked and saw that, funny they still list this under specs even though other countries list it correctly and despite me telling them it was wrong in November at the motorcycle show!

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Final Drive, V-belt Drive
 

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Au contraire - from what I have read the sum of the 2013 changes offer a significant improvement over what existed before.
The reworking of the CVT and clutch are very worthwhile alone. If I was in this position (and I am not) I would stretch for the 2013.
I am with NormanB on this. :thumbup:
 

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NormanB said:
Au contraire - from what I have read the sum of the 2013 changes offer a significant improvement over what existed before.
The reworking of the CVT and clutch are very worthwhile alone, the remaining changes are largely styling and that will always come down to a matter of taste. However, any purchasing decision needs to weigh up value and if those changes stack up for you financially, a 2013 is unlikely to be discounted whereas an unused new 2012 should be discounted significantly.

As the sun goes down it is down to taste and the depth of your pockets.

If I was in this position (and I am not) I would stretch for the 2013.

Yes agree, plus improve on seat and suspension for make more confie.
 

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If your present 650 is getting on in miles, think of it as buying a fresh transmission and getting the upgraded Tupperware and dashboard for another few thousand after trade-in.
 

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Chérie said:
Yes agree, plus improve on seat and suspension for make more confie.
I was not aware of any suspension changes.Can you point these out?
 

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Chérie said:
Yes agree, plus improve on seat and suspension for make more confie.
I was not aware of any suspension changes.Can you point these out?
Nor I. Here's from the first known owner on here.

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We are on the New Burgman, 2013.

I've now run my bike in, had the first service (call that a service?) & the miles continue to climb.

Back to the suspension, that really needs a good sorting, still. Poor front end travel, bottoms out, rattles on bumps, generally NOT that good, but typical of the big scooter. (but still MUCH better than the Silverwing). Back dampers are pretty crap too. We are two up this weekend & neither of us are particularly big guys, but the back feels soft, even set on top notch. Not impressed, but it works ok.
 

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didn't see the heated seat & grips on the one they have at my suzuki dealer.
US models don't get them. Potentially they may offer an add on accessory kit though.
 
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