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http://rideapart.com/2013/07/rideapart-review-suzuki-burgman-400-abs/

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"The ‘twist and go’ approach is smooth with a quick pick up and it’s easy to see why this scooter is really in its element for town riding at urban speeds limits. The problem is that it starts to struggle a little when you head out on to the freeway. It’ll do it, but it’s not entirely happy and while the ride remains smooth and compliant the engine starts to get buzzy at anything over 60mph. It’s not inadequate, you just feel you could just do with a little more power for overtaking."

"Long distances on the freeway on this version of the Burgman are not going to be a rewarding experience. For that you should consider the Burgman 400’s big brother, the 650cc version but then you’ll be looking at several thousand dollars more."

"Out on city roads it lopes along nicely, keeping up well with the ebb and flow of traffic. But where it scores best is under 50mph. It’s sprightly and you can move in and out and of fast moving traffic with a high degree of flexibility. The Burgman is quiet too and the flat black version we tested looks unpretentious despite its “luxury scooter” tag."

"The engine on the Burgman 400 gets buzzy at high speed and it is definitely more at ease on urban streets than cruising on the freeway. The aerodynamically styled windshield, while it’s very effective at deflecting airflow away from the rider, it’s almost impossible to look through as it distorts the rider’s vision too much."

"It’s zippy and accelerates well all the way up to 50mph and you can quickly move this scooter around out on the road. But it’s no sports machine even though the optimistic speedo says it can reach 110mph. We found 75mph was about as fast as you’d really want to go. Braver souls than us have claimed they have got up to 100mph on a Burgman 400 and we don’t disbelieve them. We just didn’t want to try that."

Are these fair statements? I've never heard of the buzz at 60mph & over.
 

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No "buzziness" on my 2011 400 at 75 indicated.
 

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Was the person doing this review really riding a Burgman 400 or something else?

Bill
 

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not sure about the review, i cruise at 75mph and the bikes has plenty of power to continue accelerating, i just dont want to.
 

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Probably the tester just got off a big sport bike or something and hadn't adjusted his riding perspective to a smaller bike. Also, I suspect the tester was riding a Burgman that wasn't fully run in. As anyone knows who has bought one of these new, the engines tend to be very tight when new and this remains for two to three thousand miles at least. So the amount of power it produces is slightly down and they don't feel so good at higher speeds. But once run in they go like mad! The engine is designed to rev fairly high too and that's ok. I suspect the tester does not understand a short stroke engines ability to do this without wearing out or being stressed even if it sounds like it is. Cruising at 70-80mph is perfectly fine and the bike is very stable, as you all know!

The review makes some good points too but I don't agree with his analysis that the bike is best in urban/town use. Suzuki sell the bike here is 'Urop' as a motorway (Freeway) cruiser capable of high speed long distance running. And it works.
 

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That review is WAY off base!
 

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Was the person doing this review really riding a Burgman 400 or something else?

Bill
I wondered the same thing. It does not reflect my experience with my 08. No vibration and it will cruise at 70-75 all day long. It will out handle a Harley and beat them easily across mountain curvy roads.
 

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> But where it scores best is under 50mph.
And 150 cc scoot scores best under 20 mph, 50 cc - < 7 mph, bicycle - when standing still, and walking is reverse :)

> A cruiser motorcycle is more fun to ride; goes faster and I'd prefer to be in the saddle on a cruiser all day than a scooter.
This fella is aiming at Iron Butt Award :D
 

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I think the fundamental problem is that inexperienced riders are unsettled by the ratio of high engine rpm to road speed and feel the engine is completely stressed out. It is not and is doing exactly what is was designed to do -I used to sit at 75 true on my olde svelte all day long - well a few hours at a time - between refuelling and visiting the little boys room anyway.

Review loses credibility when they say unsubstantiated things.
 

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I think the fundamental problem is that inexperienced riders are unsettled by the ratio of high engine rpm to road speed and feel the engine is completely stressed out. It is not and is doing exactly what is was designed to do ........................
I agree. I am surprised how many 400 owners on this site that are "rpm-phobic".
 

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I agree. I am surprised how many 400 owners on this site that are "rpm-phobic".
My 08 cruised fine at 7,000 RPMs. I don't see a problem as many of the 600cc. "crotch rockets" turn 14,000 without problems.
 

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At 6500 -7500 the engine just sings. Zuki has always been good at such motors. And it's not a chopper style the young couple was likely expecting -- potato, potato around 3k and anything more than 5'000 already feels like bike is falling apart :p
 

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Yes, missed the mark and the point, however the RPM at 70 mph is a little high in stock form. Doesn't hurt the bike, but for high speed cruise, a new rider might have some of the perceptions that were mentioned. This engine continues to amaze me, and like QM stated it really takes some miles to fully bed in. I have done two 800 mile trips, with loads of gear, and the bike was flawless.

PS interstates are boring beyond belief, and ZERO fun on a machine with the 400s capabilities. I leave them to the straight line machines. ~~~~~~
 

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At 6500 -7500 the engine just sings. Zuki has always been good at such motors. And it's not a chopper style the young couple was likely expecting -- potato, potato around 3k and anything more than 5'000 already feels like bike is falling apart :p
^^^~Exactly.
5000 RPMs? Will one of those Vs even turn that many? :p
 

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I find the engine is the smoothest between 50 and 70mph (indicated). Although the bike can easily handle it, I don't enjoy cruising at 75 or above as the suspension limitations become more evident at this speed.

The reviewer is definitely off-base.
 

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Have we ever seen a review on any Burgman 400 or 650 that was right on. :scratch:
 

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